Anonymousrower2 wrote:

TopWorkM8 wrote:

youreallwet wrote:

if you are complaining about an essentially scratch 4+ made up of members of a uni 4v being too good to enter your event its time to re-consider whether rowing is your sport.

those people who hark the death of club rowing are the same people who chastise others for wanting to represent their clubs. 

'Scratch'... despite the fact they have all been rowing at uni together for the last year, got taught to row together, and have most likely been rowing together over the last few weeks pre-henley (Taurus rowers rowing together for good couple of months, elizabethan have been out on the tideway, team keane have been rowing together a while now and all rowed for oubc together).

Yeah. Good one. Move along.

Well said.

Whether there are a scratch crew or not, a student crew should not be club eligible. The clue is in the name... Also, 4V (if that is really the level they are at...) is still a pretty high standard in the states and even in the UK, we've seen essentially 3V crews (Brookes) pulling 5.55s (Met) which is far beyond the reach of most club athletes.
 

Didn't brookes take 1st, 2nd, 3rd at met? None of those lads should even see the club events! They are all high calibre oarsmen and should be very much in the intermediate or open events. I hope none of them are sneaking into club events much like anyone else in a high-level rowing programme. 

Anonymousrower2 wrote:

TopWorkM8 wrote:

youreallwet wrote:

if you are complaining about an essentially scratch 4+ made up of members of a uni 4v being too good to enter your event its time to re-consider whether rowing is your sport.

those people who hark the death of club rowing are the same people who chastise others for wanting to represent their clubs. 

'Scratch'... despite the fact they have all been rowing at uni together for the last year, got taught to row together, and have most likely been rowing together over the last few weeks pre-henley (Taurus rowers rowing together for good couple of months, elizabethan have been out on the tideway, team keane have been rowing together a while now and all rowed for oubc together).

Yeah. Good one. Move along.

Well said.

Whether there are a scratch crew or not, a student crew should not be club eligible. The clue is in the name... Also, 4V (if that is really the level they are at...) is still a pretty high standard in the states and even in the UK, we've seen essentially 3V crews (Brookes) pulling 5.55s (Met) which is far beyond the reach of most club athletes.
 

Precisely. Considering the Brookes 3rd 8 put at least four seconds into Thames at Met, who are the best club 8 in the UK by a large distance suggests 3V is still a standard above that of club. Especially when you consider Brookes were 10? (or around there) seconds quicker than Star and Arrow who in themselves are a questionable club crew...
 

Chopchopchop wrote:

I row at London and I apologise for our part in this. anyone who's rowed at London knows that London isn't run by the rowers like a lot of clubs and the rowers have no say in what goes on.

Most of us dont agree with the American uni students ringer crew we have going but we can't do anything or won't even be in a crew for Henley.

Incredible. London Rowing Club's Britannia 4+ is four current students at American universities who have rowed as students all year - three at Princeton, one at Florida Tech - and even LRC members are embarrassed by this flagrant violation of the Stewards' 2013 ruling. What a disgrace. 
 

Everything to do with hrr comes with the caveat that the stewards make the final decision at their discretion, you've all done such a good job moaning about it that they may give half a shit and double check. But if they're allowed to race chances are it's been checked with the stewards and they've approved it. If crews are breaking rules they won't be allowed to race, if their entry is allowed then sorry but you got to get on with it.

LRC=Princeton Students wrote:

Chopchopchop wrote:

I row at London and I apologise for our part in this. anyone who's rowed at London knows that London isn't run by the rowers like a lot of clubs and the rowers have no say in what goes on.

Most of us dont agree with the American uni students ringer crew we have going but we can't do anything or won't even be in a crew for Henley.

Incredible. London Rowing Club's Britannia 4+ is four current students at American universities who have rowed as students all year - three at Princeton, one at Florida Tech - and even LRC members are embarrassed by this flagrant violation of the Stewards' 2013 ruling. What a disgrace. 
 

LRC seems to have adopted a policy of offering students a crew for HRR, and organizing membership well in advance, in the hope that they can recruit them when they leave uni. 8+ last year, 4+ this year. It's an insult to those members who have earned the right to wear the London blazer by training hard at the club, and going through selection to get in the real LRC club crews at HRR. Should be raised at the club AGM as that is probably the only forum for it.